Complexity of Toilet Paper

Episode 1: Roll with It: How Overthinking and Toilet Paper Brought Us Together

• Complexity • Season 1 • Episode 2

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Ever found yourself paralyzed by indecision at a restaurant menu? Spent hours researching the "perfect" toaster you'll barely use? Welcome to the human condition of overcomplication – and you're definitely not alone.

The Complexity of Toilet Paper podcast dives into life's unnecessarily complicated moments with humor, vulnerability, and surprising wisdom. In this premiere episode, hosts Phyllis Martin, Mark Pollack, and Al Emerick reveal the personal journeys that brought them together and their shared mission to help listeners recognize when they're making life harder than it needs to be.

"I have overthought almost everything my entire life," Phyllis confesses, explaining how muting her voice to avoid conflict ultimately consumed more energy than speaking her truth. Mark shares his lifelong search for purpose and the revelation that helping others navigate complexity was his calling all along. Meanwhile, Al brings his broadcasting background and relationship-building expertise to create a show that balances deep insights with genuine laughter.

What makes this podcast unique is its commitment to transparency and community. The hosts aren't positioning themselves as experts who've figured everything out – they're fellow overthinkers sharing their struggles and small victories. Through meaningful conversations, guest interviews, and engaging segments like "The Roll-Up" (featuring hilariously revealing questions about toilet paper preferences), they create a space where listeners can recognize themselves and find practical ways to simplify.

Whether you're dealing with major life decisions or just trying to order lunch without an existential crisis, this podcast offers compassion, perspective, and perhaps most importantly, permission to stop making everything so complicated. Subscribe now and join a community that's learning to roll with life's complexities – one conversation at a time.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes I wish we could go back to a time when things weren't so complicated.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the Complexity of Toilet Paper, the podcast that dives into the everyday moments where we overthink, hesitate or just get stuck. I'm overthinking, I'm over, I'm overthinking. Let's hear it for the toilet paper Through honest conversations, unexpected insights and a whole lot of humor. Your hosts, phyllis Martin, mark Pollack and Al Emmerich, are here to help you roll with it and make your life a little less complicated. One conversation at a time, that's right, dude. The beauty of this is its simplicity. Speaking of which, it's time to enter the stall, put the lid down or not, depending, get comfortable and roll with it. Worry not, dear friend, it's really quite simple. This is the complexity of toilet paper. Holy mackerel, we are here at the first, not first, episode of the complexity of toilet paper.

Speaker 3:

First of all, no, just talk about overthinking it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so this is a show about not overthinking, about making things simple, and this is technically speaking, because we want to establish truth right up front. This is technically the third first show, but this is it, no matter what. There's not going to be another show, because the show has evolved as we've thought through what do we really want this thing to be? And we've recorded a bunch of previous shows and well, we'll tell you all about it because we finally think.

Speaker 1:

We think found our voice. Hello everybody, hi al good morning friend oh, I'm al emmerich, I'm mark pollack. I'm Phyllis Martin.

Speaker 2:

And this is the complexity of toilet paper. Now rewind. The reason we came back to re-record this first episode was that all and we're going to break this down because this whole episode is really about the why behind the complexity of toilet paper. We have no idea when you're going to be listening to this. If you've picked up a show, you know a year from now, five years from now, or you're listening to this, you know the day we launch. We have no idea, but we are committed to transparency, truth and really letting you into the stall with us, so to speak.

Speaker 2:

There's going to be so many puns. You should probably get used to it. You're going to need your own roll of toilet paper to put up with the shit that we're going to throw at you. But no, we all have been on this individual journey that's become this bonded collective journey, and we want to unpack why we overthink things and don't think for a minute that we are not guilty of doing that. So each of us has a roll of toilet paper with us Mine is in the room next door, so I'm cheating but each of us has our own roll of toilet paper, and today I think we should just kind of let people know who we are, why we're doing this thing, why it's important. And I would love to start with you, phil, because nobody came into this journey with more hesitation and concern and, I think, overthinking, than you have. So I'll open up by asking you why the hell did you decide to do a podcast with us and why the complexity of toilet paper?

Speaker 1:

So let me first say there have been many days when I've thought why did I decide to do this podcast with the two of you Not really the two of you, but why would I ever decide to do this to begin with? And my reality is twofold. One is I have overthought almost everything my entire life. I think that was a lot of traumatic events associated with that and around that and, for whatever reason, I decided subconsciously that the safest route to take was to mute my voice or sit in silence or not use my voice or not make waves. You know, god forbid I should upset somebody or disappoint somebody or have to get into a conflict with somebody. And that, in fairness, served me really, really well for a really long time.

Speaker 1:

But the older I got and more into my career and different jobs that I had, I realized that also caused an inordinate amount of overthinking. That's actually a very hard thing to do. What I just described is a really hard thing to do and it started absorbing an inordinate amount of energy and at some point we have come together. You and I, mark, you and I have talked about that on. You know all, really all the time. It just came to me that over complicating things, making things more complex than they needed to be, is actually unnecessary, but surely something that the majority of people do consciously or subconsciously. So somebody literally asked me yesterday why, why would I decide to do this?

Speaker 1:

And I decided to do it for two reasons. One, I needed to know if I would show up authentically as Phyllis in the microphone with the two of you, so let's just say that. And two, if there's anything from my experience or questions we might know to ask guests that we'll have on from their experience that can help somebody else, let other people know. You are so not alone in this, and there are a ton of us out there who overthink things, and there's humor in that, there's sadness in that, there's pain in that.

Speaker 1:

But step number one is really just understanding it and being on the lookout for it and being, I think, with people who can help. So if my stories and my life, my curiosity, can help, then yeah, I definitely want to do this. And the last thing I'll say is I I don't want to leave anything undone in this lifetime and using, not using my voice when I know I know for sure. Um, I should be, and sometimes people are waiting for it would really be um unfair um, given all that I have been given in this lifetime.

Speaker 2:

Phyllis that is so beautiful and powerful, but I think you should really come clean and tell the truth about why you wanted to do this show. You have a strikingly wicked sense of humor, I do. You have some nasty in you, A lot. Give it all away. No dude, it's like look Mark kind of had to experience my shock over the course of this year Because it started a year ago.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, sure did.

Speaker 2:

Real quick before we dive into you, mark, and I'll throw in my two cents. Yeah, sure did, helping a gentleman start up a community called Jonathan's Landing and envisioned to be the largest community ever built for adults with autism, and I was employee number one helping stand it up. Anyway, it's a very big project. I hit a brick wall of confusion, literally I was paralyzed and I called my buddy, phil Phyllis, and I said, hey, help me figure this out. And she literally tap, tap, tap questions unlocked my anxiety. And in that moment she said you know, we, we could overthink toilet paper. And I was like, oh my God, oh my God, we got to do a podcast. And then, a few weeks later, I'm talking to Mark and I'll let him share his version of that, but the point is the three of us came together because of that. But, phyllis, I've known you since 2014, I think 2015,.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think, 2015. Yeah, 2015. So 10 years, a decade. And I had no idea how funny you are in the way that you are funny, I didn't know how sick your mind works. So when we start rolling out potty humor and talking about puns and wipeouts and and flushing things, all that, make no mistake, this is not quote unquote the guy's stall, the lady's stall. This is a trio of sick minds who have come together to help the world, but also to fulfill our own flavorful desire to be weird and now the truth is out, and well said, my friend it is.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I'm making a prediction at this. At some point we're gonna hear phyllis sing. At some point we're gonna hear phyllis do accents, and characters, for sure, and it's some, but we're gonna get lots of wisdom anyway, all right. Um, mark hi, why the hell are you here? Uh, I just showed up my computer. Why the hell are?

Speaker 3:

you here? Uh, I just showed up. My computer was on, the microphone was sitting here. I'm like I think I'll sit here and talk. Um, two people invaded my life, man, what happened? Um, impact, impact. That's why I'm here.

Speaker 3:

I, uh, I wanted to. I've been searching my whole life. When I was a little kid, I had this little tape recorder that my mom gave me and I would sit and record my voice and make up characters and always knew that I wanted to do something, but I didn't know what that something was. And I have spent my life, in some form or fashion, searching for the thing, and I have a desire to help others by unpacking things that I've experienced, but helping others unpack their experiences and share that in such a way that it creates a feeling of togetherness.

Speaker 3:

And when this idea was brought forward around how we over-complexify our life, I thought here it is. It finally showed up and I realized immediately that this was the thing that I was searching for my whole life. And you know, the beautiful part is we have started recording and this isn't our very first show, and so I know what's to come, and we've had a lot of strategic planning and I am so excited about the impact that we are going to have on so many lives, uh, through humor, uh, through stories, through, um, uh, just relatability, and so that's why I'm here, um, and I couldn't, I couldn't be more blessed than to be with the two of you on this journey that I have finally found.

Speaker 2:

Oh man Dude.

Speaker 1:

He's always one up in us, Al yeah.

Speaker 2:

You'll see.

Speaker 1:

He always has the last word and it's always a great word.

Speaker 2:

Well, not only that, he's got those melodious tones, that soft gentle, you know voice of his that makes you feel he's. He's like our priest, rabbi, sage and meditation guru at the same time. No, mark, I mean, I don't know. I know, phyllis, he's blushing.

Speaker 2:

For us to be sitting here as part of your journey for something that's so important to you. That's more than a podcast, you know, because, quite honestly, whether we end up having a successful journey with this podcast success being defined by, oh, there's lots of listeners or we're we're doing this with companies, whatever that, because we have a future business model for this that we're building, there's no doubt. But whether that happens or not, there's no doubt that this threesome togetherness has not only bonded a friendship, but we're going to help each other and we already are helping each other. Me, yes, and yes to both of you. Um, you know, my mission in purpose in life has always been connection with people. I mean, I am the eternal relationship, love on love, with hug, be hugged person. I'm a positivity junkie. I see the glass half full, sometimes to my own. Um, um, you know what's the word damage. If you know, you know cause, sometimes you can, you can what's the word detriment?

Speaker 2:

Thank you, not damage, detriment, fault, but at the end of the day I can count blessings just numerously, you know numerously. You know it's like friendships, family, pursuing my dreams in my career, and all of these things have always rounded out to really a couple of core themes. That is, we all have greater value than we realize, we have far greater impact than we realize, and I built a system around it called value mapping and a tool called the value equation. And that is my, that is my the way I see the world. I see the world through the lens of head and heart. And but technically speaking, my career began in radio and broadcasting.

Speaker 2:

So sitting in front of a microphone with you two telling stories is like a flashback to my childhood when I listened to radio, the Dr Demento show, when I listened to KUPD in Phoenix, arizona, rock 105 in Jacksonville and actually worked in radio. So I loved this aspect, I loved the old AM radio, I loved listening to interviews, I love Walter Cronkite, love 60 minutes. But it's really about the story side of people's lives and how we overthink things, because I myself have desperately overthought. I'm overthinking today in my life and, mark and Phyllis, you guys are helping me work through that as we help each other, and I was like, all right, well, what greater value, then, can I be a part of than this thing about? How do we just make life a little bit more simple, how do we appreciate the special moments, how do we not overthink happiness and how do we not overthink things that prevent us from going forward? Because, oh, by the way, living in the entrepreneurship world and starting my own companies and helping other companies start and grow it's overthinking that stops progress and stymies progress.

Speaker 2:

So the personal side is filled doing this with you guys. The business side is filled doing this with you both, and what I love most is that the three of us came from. Even though, mark, you and I have a similar background in radio and stuff. The three of us all share this. Let's make sure that there's a deliverable, if you will right, without overthinking. So, phil, what is it you want to give? You said it earlier, but, like we've talked, the three of us, about how we're going to help people, what's, what do you see as the impact of this show from the standpoint of like, hey, this is what we want to bring to you. This is some of the technical stuff we're going to deliver to you as well, because this is an experience, but it's an experience with a desire to improve your life.

Speaker 1:

Thoughts on that. Phil. Yeah, I think what our listeners can expect is through shared story and narrative, finding the pieces of themselves or relatable situations where you name the topic joy, death, work, leadership. Lunch has been, has been Wait a minute. You can complicate, I can overcomplicate Hand me a menu right now and there'll be a whole situation and I will still end up eating off of both of your plates. Let's be clear about that.

Speaker 2:

How many questions do you ask when somebody orders lunch? Oh, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

I'm not that person, but I do have like a whole thing that I have to go through in my head about savory or sweet, carbs or not, like a whole thing that happens, carbs or not, like a whole thing that happens.

Speaker 1:

But through those narratives and stories and just dialogue and conversation, how we're sharing what we have overcomplicated, what guests that come on the show have overcomplicated, and tips, thoughts about the impact of that overcomplication and what we have done to simplify, or what a guest has done to make things simpler and I'll be honest, I was really offended by that word when we started using it. I'm like, no, everything is deep, everything is complicated, everything is layered. And as we've talked and as we've recorded shows, I've really come to understand maybe not so much, maybe not so much. So through this, just what we are doing right now, my hope is that people can see themselves and find something, a tool, one little tidbit, one step along a very long journey to find some simplicity and, beyond that, what that simplicity might bring to enhance or support their lives in that moment. And I hope they find a little levity along the way too.

Speaker 2:

Marco.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, gosh, I would echo that. I think, for me, the, the, the question is always the aloneness. I know when I feel most overwhelmed and things seem the most complex is when I'm by myself and think I'm the only one who's ever dealt with this, and the reality is there's a shit ton of people who have dealt with the same thing, and so I think this show and the impact it will have is the ability to let people know you're not alone. We all deal with it, and I'm actually sitting here thinking and overthinking a whole bunch of other things and and I realize I'm not I'm not alone, and so that, for me, is the impactful piece.

Speaker 1:

Hey, al, I'm going to add something to you. I think and I think this is important for our listeners, especially that we understand we have you're part of this too. There are things that we can learn from you as we're going along this journey together this is not a one directional.

Speaker 3:

The way that we've created this is not a one directional show, and so what you're going to find, if you stay with us, is that we're going to turn the mic to you and and we want to hear from you and engage with you and and speak about the things that are important in your life, because, again, you're not the only one dealing with that. Money issues We've got it. Having to buy your kid a car we got it. Uh, travel, uh, aging, money, emotions you know we've thought through a lot of the things that are commonalities among all of us, and so, um yeah, yeah, and when we say thought through, I want to be clear for you listening that we haven't figured it out.

Speaker 2:

It's not like we're presenting a solution, and that's the key thing in not overthinking this is we're. So I was just searching. So the term shared consciousness all right, so it's a common awareness or understanding among a group of individuals, often based on shared experiences, beliefs or values. Um, it can manifest as collective consciousness or real time understanding within a team, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But this idea of, of a collective consciousness, that's what you were just talking about, mark, collective consciousness, that's what you were just talking about, mark.

Speaker 2:

And so I want to restate something that I know will come up in future episodes, I'm sure over and over again, which is we're not solving something and we're not saying that life isn't hard, right? I think sometimes we are subject to looking for the answer, looking for the pill, subject to looking for the answer, looking for the pill, looking for the solution, and we're saying that this is a state of a human existence to overthink things and make things harder than you need to be. So how can we be a nudge to entertainingly and inhumanly, and compassionately and joyfully, give you a place, to A feel you're not alone. B get some tips, as you said, phyllis, and advice, but just the shared perspectives. We're going to have people who have been whistleblowers for major major corporations. We're going to have people who've been world travelers, entrepreneurs, women, men, who knows children down the road, plus our own stories.

Speaker 2:

But these ideas and topics that Mark's talking about joy, happiness, you know, phyllis, you mentioned them. It's the topic, that's the star of the show, not the, not the guest, or not me or Mark or Phyllis, um, and, and you, as the, as the listener, hopefully, are the recipient of the star of the show, which is a topic around, something that we all live with, experience, and and why do we overthink it and how can we make it a little more simple? But that doesn't mean we're going to solve it, and that's the thing I want. That's kind of like what I wanted to level set right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're kind of like the guides through it, right? Yeah, so asking the questions.

Speaker 2:

So we are guides to bring you into the stall, which I think is the perfect time right now for us to introduce the debut of something that we call the roll up. That's right, this is the roll up, and every guest that we bring into the stall with us will experience the roll-up. This is a series of rapid-fire questions that can only be described as deep, soulful, riveting questions that could change your life, and so this, ladies and gentlemen, is the roll-up. All right, phyllis, you ready?

Speaker 1:

I think I am. When it comes to toilet paper over or under Over, but I will not hesitate to reach for under if I need to.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's good, and all of us are appreciative if you don't hesitate. Thank you, mark, over or under if I need to. Well, that's good and all of us are appreciative.

Speaker 3:

Don't hesitate.

Speaker 2:

Mark over or under? Over, of course, I'm a total over guy, no, under. I don't know why I just got to have the over, all right. So three of us are overs. And, by the way, in case you're wondering, if you if you're wondering, you probably shouldn't be listening to this show. Over is like, as in over or under the role. All right, good, I think everybody got that All right. All right, ready. Next question here we go, mark, you can lead us off.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So, as it is concerned to toilet paper, yes, single ply or two ply, two ply, as fluffy as it possibly can be.

Speaker 3:

Mm fluffy, I can be fluffy.

Speaker 2:

I'm a two-ply guy because I'm kind of fly no, no, no, no, no, no, all right hey, first of all, no I was shocked when I realized how many one-ply rolls are really out there in the world. I've actually gone out and looked and seen one plies and I'm like how in the earth could we use a? Who uses one ply? But I, I guess it makes it well, it's cost effective. There's lots of places, is it?

Speaker 3:

though, because then you're like bunching it all up and I mean I'm not saying you gotta get quilted two ply, but you know, single ply I would. I would have been shocked.

Speaker 2:

But, hey, listeners, next time you're in a public restroom I'd love for you to check out is it a one-ply or two-ply? And by all means, visit our Facebook page the Complexity of Toilet Paper Once again, the Complexity of Toilet Paper. And if you experience one-ply or two-ply, let us know. That would be great to get that input because inquiring minds want to know. All right, all right. So that's two of the questions, all right. The third question Phil, what is your potty time activity or game that you play or do?

Speaker 1:

When I was young, I would read the comics and the horoscope, but now that I am a mature woman, I do my online shopping.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you do.

Speaker 3:

She's got her whole computer set up in the stall.

Speaker 1:

She's so I have a whole lot of minutes shopping uh situation set up in my all of your friends area all of your friends who get your gifts now.

Speaker 2:

I want them all to realize that there's a chance that gift was conceived while while phyllis was doing her business.

Speaker 1:

Well, let me say it is an extension of what was when we used to get catalogs in the mail. Then I would take those into my stall and have a delightful time looking at them. But now I don't have to look.

Speaker 2:

I can look and buy at the same time I, uh, I used to read um highlights magazine when I was a kid. Yeah, loved highlight um and I would always. My mom would always go are you okay? I mean it was a normal thing. I mean I I thought after like maybe a few years she would have realized I'm okay. But I know I realized later she was asking me for another reason um, just yeah, we're just gonna leave that one again.

Speaker 3:

No, yeah, no opening show first show.

Speaker 2:

Oh whatever, oh, that's right 15th maybe hey, remember when we had that podcast and then al killed it um right away started 28 minutes in yeah. Anyway. So then, and I don't know where this started, this sounds egotistical to say, but I would look for the letters of my name in words.

Speaker 1:

There's two.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was going to say it's an A and an L, like those are the most popular letters ever.

Speaker 2:

There's a last name too. Oh, doofus is Emmerich with his e and an m e r I c k.

Speaker 3:

So like all of the name or something, yeah like.

Speaker 2:

Are you judging me? No, you know I'm sharing a deep personal thing only with you guys. Nobody else is hearing this deep personal don't overcomplicate, I'm judging. Do not overcomplicate it, yeah it's Last question and this is new. This is new. Well, it's all new, because this is the first episode. Handle flush or button flush or automated flush Handle.

Speaker 3:

My toilets have the button flush. But what do you prefer? Oh, I don't care, it doesn't matter to me as long as it flushes.

Speaker 2:

I like to handle flush. I'm old school yeah, because I know it's easier and it makes more sense to just finish and then it it flushes, but um, it's, there's a sense of completion.

Speaker 1:

Oh dear god, wow wow hey, we thank you all for joining us.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. It's like oh, I'm done, now Okay.

Speaker 3:

Because I don't get that by a button Said with the relief. I know.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, how do you spell relief? All right, now we've told you all our names Phyllis Martin, mark Pollock, al Emmerich. But back in the day people would adopt radio names. I don't know if they still do. I had this idea that I couldn't be Al Emmerich on the radio. So for a period of time I was Al Roberts. I took my father's first. Yeah, I was Al Roberts.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, anyway and my mom was so, not you.

Speaker 2:

My mom was so pissed off at me because she's like that's not your name, you're Alfred Emmerich. I'm like, well, mom, I'm not going by Alfred. She's like you're Al Emmerich and I'm like, okay, but Emmerich, she's like your father was in radio and that was Emmerich with a K. Just stick with the name. I was like, no, I'm going to be Al Roberts.

Speaker 1:

All um. What is your pun name? There you go, you're ready.

Speaker 2:

This is your pun name, phyllis. My pun name is puns galore. Puns galore, really puns galore. What was that other? Isn't there another name, you?

Speaker 1:

had cookies mcgee cookies mcgee.

Speaker 2:

All right, so puns galore. Cookies mcgee.

Speaker 3:

These names may show up mark I don't even know how do I follow cookies mcgee you can't you just gotta come up with it, come on come on, uh uh, flush larue, oh, flush larue I'll go with it, yeah it was better than my radio name, which was murdoch, so so yeah, okay, um, uh, okay, dirk Stallworth, I'm Dirk Stallworth, dirk Stallworth, yeah. I can see you as Dirk Stallworth.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, yeah um, all right anyway. So I? This is the stupid shit that we're going to talk about, uh, in addition to life's bigger, bigger issues too. Oh, this was important. This is the stupid shit that we're going to talk about In addition to life's bigger issues too.

Speaker 3:

Oh, this is important. This is a big life issue. So rest of the day. Whatever Flush, what was my last name?

Speaker 2:

LaRue.

Speaker 3:

LaRue. Yeah, flush LaRue, I can totally see it.

Speaker 2:

Well, this is a sneak peek into the world, that's, that's heading your way. Um, let's just close with with with the following um, and I'll start, and then you guys toss it around and we'll leave it to mark to close this out. Oh geez, we just we re-recorded this for the reasons we've shared, but also there's a level of excitement and, and what I'd like to know is and we don't prep these questions just so you guys know, it's not like we script out this show, and so this is an organic show. There's some topics, yes, we know we want to talk about. We research our guests, all that, and we know each other, but we don't necessarily say, oh, let's ask this question, and so this is one of those examples I want to know at this point you know we're re-recording this literally days before our launch Good planning, what are you most excited about?

Speaker 2:

And I'll start and then maybe you go, phil, I am most excited now about the untapped energy that the three of us have, and I'm really excited by what this can mean for people, but I'm also what this means for us. I'm so excited about where this takes us, because it's really so much more than just a podcast, because it's really so much more than just a podcast. It's a way to see life, view life, feel good about life, learn, and, whatever this becomes, I'm a better person for it and I'm excited to see where I grow, where you guys grow, and where our audience grows. I mean, that's genuinely like wow. Okay, let's look back and celebrate that. That's what I'm looking forward to. What about you, phil?

Speaker 1:

I'm going to say yes to everything that you just said, being totally truthful and transparent. I'm excited that I'm excited and I'm excited to get to this point in the journey where I feel comfortable enough to do this authentically, as Phyllis Martin, with the two, with the two of you. Um and I had another thought, but it has. It has left, um, the brain, uh, temporarily, I think. It's coming back here it is. I'm excited and there you have it.

Speaker 3:

And it's the flush. That wasn't all the way. It was the half flush, and now we're oh, now it's gone, now it's back.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited for us and for our for listeners that we hopefully together can get to the heart of why we overcomplicate stuff and it's probably different for different topics and different areas because if we can start to figure that thing out, then we can move, then we can move beyond it and then collectively, you know, great things can happen for all of us, the collective, all of us, and maybe there's that paradigm shift and that shift in behavior and overall, like amazing shift that starts, that starts to happen.

Speaker 3:

Mark Wonderfully said. So I'm I agree, and so I'm not going to repeat what you both said. What I'm most excited about is commitment, and what commitment is is we committed to do this thing. We're doing it and we're launching it and we're going to continue to do it, and I, through life, have over-complexified so many things that I have committed to and didn't do, and so I'm most excited that we're actually doing this thing and it's actually launching and we've actually put it on Facebook and we're really doing it. And for me and my own personal journey, I am most excited about that. And for our listeners, I'm most excited for them to understand that whatever you're dreaming and you're committing to do it and commit to it and make it happen. And we're just three average people who have come together to do this thing and everybody can do it, and so the commitment of doing is what I'm most excited about.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I forgot one really important thing that I was excited about.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, go back.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I am really very excited, like crazy excited, about other people being excited, as we've watched on the Complexity of Toilet Paper Facebook page Y'all's enthusiasm. That has just sent me over the top with enthusiasm and excitement.

Speaker 3:

And the memes, and the memes, and the memes. They're fantastic. Keep them coming, please. They're hilarious.

Speaker 1:

And the questions.

Speaker 2:

There's not enough good feedback that we can get, and whatever that feedback is and that's what we hope from you that we can do our business and build a relationship with you, whoever you are today, wherever you are, and thank you for joining us in the stall. We will be back in the stall. We hope you will be back with us. That is a frightful sight to think of how many people we will all have in a stall together, but hey, that's where we are. Did you say toilet paper?

Speaker 1:

Everything complicated One big medieval mess.

Speaker 2:

Have a blessed, simple day, life week until we see you again. I'm overthinking, I'm over. I'm you again. This is the complexity of toilet paper.

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Al Emerick

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